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		<title>Comment on Detaching From An Alcoholic by julie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you julie for your suggestion of the book.  i am getting more concerned for the safety of my daughter. she is now 21, the alcoholic says he is going to find her and that he knows where she is.  he says demeaning sexual things about her, i am scared that he will act upon this. he is obsessed with her and says i will be dead and he will get her then and do all sorts of sexual acts on her.  my daughter hates his guts and has not seen him since she was 15.  he even said he went down my laundry basket and got out her knickers, she was then only 14. OMG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you julie for your suggestion of the book.  i am getting more concerned for the safety of my daughter. she is now 21, the alcoholic says he is going to find her and that he knows where she is.  he says demeaning sexual things about her, i am scared that he will act upon this. he is obsessed with her and says i will be dead and he will get her then and do all sorts of sexual acts on her.  my daughter hates his guts and has not seen him since she was 15.  he even said he went down my laundry basket and got out her knickers, she was then only 14. OMG</p>
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		<title>Comment on Detaching From An Alcoholic by Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, believe in the power oF prayer.  I have often times
complained about my husband on this web sight.  His daughter recently moved in and is taking a 21 day live
in,rehab for drugs.  Things are coming to a big blast of
truth and honesty.  It is forcing my husband to take a look
at his alcoholism.  There is a huge argument between the
x-wife, her live in, my husband, sisters and everyone
thinks they are right.  Maybe through this and the family
required attendance at a couple of classes for re-hab.
I don&#039;t know where all this is going and seems totally
unmanageable, so I am trying to stay out of the way.
Maybe the night she slept in her car in the snow pushed
her to finally seek help.  Thanks to all for all of the
prayers extended to my situation.  Hopefully this mixed
family can get back on track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, believe in the power oF prayer.  I have often times<br />
complained about my husband on this web sight.  His daughter recently moved in and is taking a 21 day live<br />
in,rehab for drugs.  Things are coming to a big blast of<br />
truth and honesty.  It is forcing my husband to take a look<br />
at his alcoholism.  There is a huge argument between the<br />
x-wife, her live in, my husband, sisters and everyone<br />
thinks they are right.  Maybe through this and the family<br />
required attendance at a couple of classes for re-hab.<br />
I don&#8217;t know where all this is going and seems totally<br />
unmanageable, so I am trying to stay out of the way.<br />
Maybe the night she slept in her car in the snow pushed<br />
her to finally seek help.  Thanks to all for all of the<br />
prayers extended to my situation.  Hopefully this mixed<br />
family can get back on track.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Detaching From An Alcoholic by Caitlyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and one other thing, when you feel like you &quot;can&#039;t take anymore&quot; [your words] you walk away. Come back when you feel strong again. Don&#039;t let him break you down to that point. As soon as you recognise that point is coming up. Tell him &quot;end of discussion&quot;. Then turn and walk away, to another room, to another house [a friend&#039;s, neighbours whatever]. Go for a walk in the park or drive in the car with your wife. You return to face your son when you are ready. Take control of your emotions and yourself and your behaviour and only good can come out of it for you. Other family members can use the same tactic. Detach from your abusive son, walk away. Forgive him for his misbehaviour in your mind. He is unwell with the disease of addiction. Also he doesn&#039;t need to know you are forgiving him. You don&#039;t need to tell him he is forgiven for his non stop verbal attacks that break you down. Walk away and face him when you feel cool, calm, collected and able. Don&#039;t allow yourself to get to the point of feeling broken down by him. Calmly walk away and return when you feel strong and recovered. Don&#039;t stand there and give him the attention to fuel his abuse. You or anyone. 

Hope this helps. Think it all through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and one other thing, when you feel like you &#8220;can&#8217;t take anymore&#8221; [your words] you walk away. Come back when you feel strong again. Don&#8217;t let him break you down to that point. As soon as you recognise that point is coming up. Tell him &#8220;end of discussion&#8221;. Then turn and walk away, to another room, to another house [a friend's, neighbours whatever]. Go for a walk in the park or drive in the car with your wife. You return to face your son when you are ready. Take control of your emotions and yourself and your behaviour and only good can come out of it for you. Other family members can use the same tactic. Detach from your abusive son, walk away. Forgive him for his misbehaviour in your mind. He is unwell with the disease of addiction. Also he doesn&#8217;t need to know you are forgiving him. You don&#8217;t need to tell him he is forgiven for his non stop verbal attacks that break you down. Walk away and face him when you feel cool, calm, collected and able. Don&#8217;t allow yourself to get to the point of feeling broken down by him. Calmly walk away and return when you feel strong and recovered. Don&#8217;t stand there and give him the attention to fuel his abuse. You or anyone. </p>
<p>Hope this helps. Think it all through.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Detaching From An Alcoholic by Caitlyn</title>
		<link>http://alcoholicsfriend.com/2010/07/detaching-alcoholic/comment-page-3/#comment-25050</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

The same rules apply for you in your situation with your alcoholic son as the rest of us dealing with alcoholic spouses. You can love your son but with detachment. Look on this site for the material and information regarding this. You can live with your son, but with new rules for your peace of mind. Set boundaries and don&#039;t tolerate any bad behaviour or threats and don&#039;t allow your son to burden you with negative emotions of guilt and the like. You can&#039;t control whether he suicides or not. So let go of the idea you can. If he means it, he will find a way regardless. Let go of your guilt and the threat of possibilities. Cut your parent bond but not the love. Let your son know you love him but won&#039;t put up with ANY bad behaviour that impinges on your family home and your wife or your lives and health.

Your son is a grown man, not necessarily grown up but an adult nevertheless. He has to deal with his choices - alcohol, where he is in life. It was not you or your wife that put him there. You have shown nothing but great love and support for him. He should be so grateful for this. Also perhaps consider altering the level of support - mostly financial, not the love - so you aren&#039;t unwittingly enabling his alcoholic behaviour and mis-behaviour. Set firm boundaries for what is and isn&#039;t acceptable to make all your lives better. Alcoholics do love having boundaries. They are a bit like children in that regard. If they know the boundary they will work toward the acceptable level. If they cross it they need to learn to deal with it like a young child needs to learn about boundary and consequence. It gives them focus in life on behaviour. Better to focus on behaviour and boundaries than trying to cause disruption to get attention. Reward them verbally with recognition for keeping to the boundaries set. Saying thanks for controlling your anger when you see they are brewing underneath is a reward of recognition for their control over their emotions. This is just one example so you can get what I&#039;m trying to say. Setting boundaries will improve all your lives.

Encourage him to seek help for his alcoholic behaviour. Talk calmly with him about this when he is sober or soberish. Tell him he has a problem with alcohol and to think of the times and places of what alcohol and drinking has caused. Tell him you have observed his increasing agressiveness. Tell him you are not out to get him but help him with his problems. If voices or tempers become heated or raised, stop right there and say, &quot;we&#039;ll end this now and discuss it again after you give it some thought.&quot; And end it with &quot;we only have your welfare in mind. We love you son.&quot; Showing and saying you love someone is a very powerful tool for your loved one. They mightn&#039;t say anything to that in return, but they feel the power of your love and will think about it long after you have said it. 

Also seek the assistance of your pastor from church if you are in a church, they can offer spiritual health and healing for you and your wife. Everything and anything discussed with your pastor is confidential and totally private. Seek a pastor out if you aren&#039;t in a church group. Also, as others have said, Al Anon is priceless to get you on your path to recovery to lead a happy and healthy life.

God bless you and your wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>The same rules apply for you in your situation with your alcoholic son as the rest of us dealing with alcoholic spouses. You can love your son but with detachment. Look on this site for the material and information regarding this. You can live with your son, but with new rules for your peace of mind. Set boundaries and don&#8217;t tolerate any bad behaviour or threats and don&#8217;t allow your son to burden you with negative emotions of guilt and the like. You can&#8217;t control whether he suicides or not. So let go of the idea you can. If he means it, he will find a way regardless. Let go of your guilt and the threat of possibilities. Cut your parent bond but not the love. Let your son know you love him but won&#8217;t put up with ANY bad behaviour that impinges on your family home and your wife or your lives and health.</p>
<p>Your son is a grown man, not necessarily grown up but an adult nevertheless. He has to deal with his choices &#8211; alcohol, where he is in life. It was not you or your wife that put him there. You have shown nothing but great love and support for him. He should be so grateful for this. Also perhaps consider altering the level of support &#8211; mostly financial, not the love &#8211; so you aren&#8217;t unwittingly enabling his alcoholic behaviour and mis-behaviour. Set firm boundaries for what is and isn&#8217;t acceptable to make all your lives better. Alcoholics do love having boundaries. They are a bit like children in that regard. If they know the boundary they will work toward the acceptable level. If they cross it they need to learn to deal with it like a young child needs to learn about boundary and consequence. It gives them focus in life on behaviour. Better to focus on behaviour and boundaries than trying to cause disruption to get attention. Reward them verbally with recognition for keeping to the boundaries set. Saying thanks for controlling your anger when you see they are brewing underneath is a reward of recognition for their control over their emotions. This is just one example so you can get what I&#8217;m trying to say. Setting boundaries will improve all your lives.</p>
<p>Encourage him to seek help for his alcoholic behaviour. Talk calmly with him about this when he is sober or soberish. Tell him he has a problem with alcohol and to think of the times and places of what alcohol and drinking has caused. Tell him you have observed his increasing agressiveness. Tell him you are not out to get him but help him with his problems. If voices or tempers become heated or raised, stop right there and say, &#8220;we&#8217;ll end this now and discuss it again after you give it some thought.&#8221; And end it with &#8220;we only have your welfare in mind. We love you son.&#8221; Showing and saying you love someone is a very powerful tool for your loved one. They mightn&#8217;t say anything to that in return, but they feel the power of your love and will think about it long after you have said it. </p>
<p>Also seek the assistance of your pastor from church if you are in a church, they can offer spiritual health and healing for you and your wife. Everything and anything discussed with your pastor is confidential and totally private. Seek a pastor out if you aren&#8217;t in a church group. Also, as others have said, Al Anon is priceless to get you on your path to recovery to lead a happy and healthy life.</p>
<p>God bless you and your wife.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alcoholic Boyfriend Relapses, Jail Time, Two DUI&#8217;s, Family Suffering by Caitlyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Girl:

you need to take yourself and your childen away for life from the no-gooder. He is going to weazle his way back in. Alcoholics are great manipulators and you won&#039;t even realise it&#039;s happening until it&#039;s too late and you&#039;re back to where you started with the begininning of this post here on this site. You&#039;re going around in a circle while he is anywhere near you and your kids. It&#039;s not a healthy environment for the kids or you. Take yourself away and please please please see the logic, sanity and reason for doing so and start afresh with your life. Someone new and deserving will pop in one day when you least expect it. But not him. He&#039;s isn&#039;t for you. He&#039;s nothing but bad news. I can&#039;t see him getting better for any reason or for anyone. Your two kids will have enough love and you can share your attention with them. Kids are fabulous for filling in the love void until that someone new, special and deserving steps in.

By the time you read this post, ask yourself, &quot;have I done the full circle with my boyfriend?&quot; I&#039;m sure you know the answer. I&#039;m hedging my bets that you are back to base one already. Only answer is to walk away and run the life and love you want elsewhere.

Holding you and your kids in my thoughts and prayers. Much love, C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Girl:</p>
<p>you need to take yourself and your childen away for life from the no-gooder. He is going to weazle his way back in. Alcoholics are great manipulators and you won&#8217;t even realise it&#8217;s happening until it&#8217;s too late and you&#8217;re back to where you started with the begininning of this post here on this site. You&#8217;re going around in a circle while he is anywhere near you and your kids. It&#8217;s not a healthy environment for the kids or you. Take yourself away and please please please see the logic, sanity and reason for doing so and start afresh with your life. Someone new and deserving will pop in one day when you least expect it. But not him. He&#8217;s isn&#8217;t for you. He&#8217;s nothing but bad news. I can&#8217;t see him getting better for any reason or for anyone. Your two kids will have enough love and you can share your attention with them. Kids are fabulous for filling in the love void until that someone new, special and deserving steps in.</p>
<p>By the time you read this post, ask yourself, &#8220;have I done the full circle with my boyfriend?&#8221; I&#8217;m sure you know the answer. I&#8217;m hedging my bets that you are back to base one already. Only answer is to walk away and run the life and love you want elsewhere.</p>
<p>Holding you and your kids in my thoughts and prayers. Much love, C</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alcoholic Boyfriend Relapses, Jail Time, Two DUI&#8217;s, Family Suffering by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If person have had drinking problem in the past there is no chance to take only one beer, one shot or one whatever alcoholic.
Don&#039;t know how you should act in this situation but I think he needs some medical treatment or professional help otherwise he can&#039;t fight this habit on his own and you are wasting your nerves, time and energy and his problem while you could enjoy your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If person have had drinking problem in the past there is no chance to take only one beer, one shot or one whatever alcoholic.<br />
Don&#8217;t know how you should act in this situation but I think he needs some medical treatment or professional help otherwise he can&#8217;t fight this habit on his own and you are wasting your nerves, time and energy and his problem while you could enjoy your life.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When To Avoid Having Serious Conversations With An Alcoholic by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question...what if the alcoholic in your life drinks to intoxication 7 nights a week and, ultimately, spends each morning hungover?  Based on the article above, in my situation, there wouldn&#039;t be a right time to talk to them about something serious.  =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question&#8230;what if the alcoholic in your life drinks to intoxication 7 nights a week and, ultimately, spends each morning hungover?  Based on the article above, in my situation, there wouldn&#8217;t be a right time to talk to them about something serious.  =(</p>
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		<title>Comment on Husband&#8217;s Alcoholism Progressively Getting Worse by Chloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, VERY well said...you summed it up PERFECTLY with the car accident and stumbling through life analogy.  That&#039;s an amazing description of the dynamics going on with alcoholics and their codependents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, VERY well said&#8230;you summed it up PERFECTLY with the car accident and stumbling through life analogy.  That&#8217;s an amazing description of the dynamics going on with alcoholics and their codependents.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Husband&#8217;s Alcoholism Progressively Getting Worse by Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to end the last post......all the while wondering what the hell OUR problem is, and why we are so crazy. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to end the last post&#8230;&#8230;all the while wondering what the hell OUR problem is, and why we are so crazy. <img src='http://alcoholicsfriend.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Husband&#8217;s Alcoholism Progressively Getting Worse by Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chloe,

I admire you for your courage. Brandie, that is very helpful...&quot;he loves me as an addict loves someone.&quot;  When you feel unloved and disposable long enough, you begin to feel you are unloveable and despicable. That is the consequence of being in an alcoholic relationship. I have come to the grim realization that my alcoholic will never, ever quit. She will die with this disease, and she is taking me with her (maybe even faster). Have you ever heard how drunks don&#039;t usually die in car accidents they cause, but the sober people do? Because the drunks are so relaxed, their bodies are less likely to be injured by the force of the impact. This &quot;stumbling through life&quot; approach is also evident in relationships...They stress us out, use us, bleed us dry, and are uninjured by any of it, because they are completely relaxed through it all. They do not care while we cry and stress. They sleep like babies while we twist, turn, and pace. They eat while we lose our appetites for days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chloe,</p>
<p>I admire you for your courage. Brandie, that is very helpful&#8230;&#8221;he loves me as an addict loves someone.&#8221;  When you feel unloved and disposable long enough, you begin to feel you are unloveable and despicable. That is the consequence of being in an alcoholic relationship. I have come to the grim realization that my alcoholic will never, ever quit. She will die with this disease, and she is taking me with her (maybe even faster). Have you ever heard how drunks don&#8217;t usually die in car accidents they cause, but the sober people do? Because the drunks are so relaxed, their bodies are less likely to be injured by the force of the impact. This &#8220;stumbling through life&#8221; approach is also evident in relationships&#8230;They stress us out, use us, bleed us dry, and are uninjured by any of it, because they are completely relaxed through it all. They do not care while we cry and stress. They sleep like babies while we twist, turn, and pace. They eat while we lose our appetites for days.</p>
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